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	<title>Comments on: Best Natural Trainer (my opinion, of course)</title>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 18:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astroyam, I&#039;ve always felt that minimal doesn&#039;t refer as much to the drop or offset of the shoe as it does to the amount of cushioning in the shoe. We&#039;ve taken to calling lower offset shoes like the Fluid Flex (and even Hoka shoes), natural running shoes. I really wouldn&#039;t consider the Fluid Flex a minimal shoe due to the copious amount of EVA foam underfoot. The most minimal shoe that Montrail has in their line is the Rogue Racer and Rogue Fly, which are both 9mm offsets but are more more minimal underfoot. Hope that help. 

max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astroyam, I&#8217;ve always felt that minimal doesn&#8217;t refer as much to the drop or offset of the shoe as it does to the amount of cushioning in the shoe. We&#8217;ve taken to calling lower offset shoes like the Fluid Flex (and even Hoka shoes), natural running shoes. I really wouldn&#8217;t consider the Fluid Flex a minimal shoe due to the copious amount of EVA foam underfoot. The most minimal shoe that Montrail has in their line is the Rogue Racer and Rogue Fly, which are both 9mm offsets but are more more minimal underfoot. Hope that help. </p>
<p>max</p>
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		<title>By: astroyam</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1689</link>
		<dc:creator>astroyam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there actually other Montrail minimal type shoes? I thought they were all relatively high drop like 8,10+?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there actually other Montrail minimal type shoes? I thought they were all relatively high drop like 8,10+?</p>
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		<title>By: The Montrail Fluid Flex: A Review</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1676</link>
		<dc:creator>The Montrail Fluid Flex: A Review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 23:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Montrail Fluid Flex are a light shoe (in this more technical report by my Montrail team mate Max King, Max notes the womens 8 weighs in at 6.1oz). They are NOT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Montrail Fluid Flex are a light shoe (in this more technical report by my Montrail team mate Max King, Max notes the womens 8 weighs in at 6.1oz). They are NOT [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 05:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guys, sorry for the delay on a reply. I find the fit just a bit longer than the Rogue Fly but I wear the same size in it. Another blog post said they might recommend a size down in the Fluid Flex but I would be careful. It&#039;s a great second opinion read.  Read the review here: http://runbikerace.com/2013/02/09/montrail-fluidflex-shoe-review/
I find the toe box nice and roomy but not too wide. it is wider than the Rogue Fly, I think. The upper is still super minimal so if you like the Rogue Fly, there&#039;s a good chance you&#039;ll like this one as well. In the heel there&#039;s a bit less foam cushion so fit may not feel as snug on some feet but I find it a very good fit still. 

Max</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys, sorry for the delay on a reply. I find the fit just a bit longer than the Rogue Fly but I wear the same size in it. Another blog post said they might recommend a size down in the Fluid Flex but I would be careful. It&#8217;s a great second opinion read.  Read the review here: <a href="http://runbikerace.com/2013/02/09/montrail-fluidflex-shoe-review/" rel="nofollow">http://runbikerace.com/2013/02/09/montrail-fluidflex-shoe-review/</a><br />
I find the toe box nice and roomy but not too wide. it is wider than the Rogue Fly, I think. The upper is still super minimal so if you like the Rogue Fly, there&#8217;s a good chance you&#8217;ll like this one as well. In the heel there&#8217;s a bit less foam cushion so fit may not feel as snug on some feet but I find it a very good fit still. </p>
<p>Max</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 18:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Max -- How is the fit compared with the Rogue Fly (sizing up or down)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Max &#8212; How is the fit compared with the Rogue Fly (sizing up or down)?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris R</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1650</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Max-
I am a trail (hilly 10-20 milers) and road racer and I have a lot of trouble fitting shoes.  My favorite shoe is the Rogue Fly although the midsole goes dead after 250 miles of so for me, and I have to put a flatter (less contoured) foot bed in there to get my preferred feel.  Rogue Fly upper, in my book, is pretty perfect, although my perfect Rogue Fly would have a flatter foot bed and a 4-6 mm drop.  So...I&#039;m interested in this shoe (Fluid Flex) and have a couple questions since I&#039;ll never be able to try a pair on out here in Boston.  Is the fit close to the Rogue Fly in terms of length?  How tight/narrow is the heel compared to the RF?  If I put road miles on this will it lose responsiveness prematurely?  

Thank you my brother.  Keep up the good work.  If yo u can get Montrail to make a mud-capable racing shoe I&#039;ll get that, too.

-Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Max-<br />
I am a trail (hilly 10-20 milers) and road racer and I have a lot of trouble fitting shoes.  My favorite shoe is the Rogue Fly although the midsole goes dead after 250 miles of so for me, and I have to put a flatter (less contoured) foot bed in there to get my preferred feel.  Rogue Fly upper, in my book, is pretty perfect, although my perfect Rogue Fly would have a flatter foot bed and a 4-6 mm drop.  So&#8230;I&#8217;m interested in this shoe (Fluid Flex) and have a couple questions since I&#8217;ll never be able to try a pair on out here in Boston.  Is the fit close to the Rogue Fly in terms of length?  How tight/narrow is the heel compared to the RF?  If I put road miles on this will it lose responsiveness prematurely?  </p>
<p>Thank you my brother.  Keep up the good work.  If yo u can get Montrail to make a mud-capable racing shoe I&#8217;ll get that, too.</p>
<p>-Chris</p>
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		<title>By: John Knotts</title>
		<link>http://blog.montrail.com/2013/01/best-natural-trainer-my-opinion-of-course/#comment-1642</link>
		<dc:creator>John Knotts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2013 04:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the scoop Max. I&#039;m really looking forward to trying these out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the scoop Max. I&#8217;m really looking forward to trying these out.</p>
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